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Did Trent Johnson deserve the ejection? A quasi-contrarian perspective

Much as he wants it to be a non-story — and he really, really really wants it to be a non-story — Trent Johnson’s ejection from the Marquette game has not faded into the background.

A coach getting tossed from an NCAA tournament game happens so rarely, and it feels so un-Stanford, that it’s a story. (It would be a much bigger story if the Cardinal had lost.)

Having done some research, talked to some folks I trust and gotten an assist from the Merc’s Darren Sabedra (whose contribution is below), I have a few more thoughts on the matter.

First of all, the original Hotline position holds: Johnson should not have put himself in position to get tossed. Ultimately, it’s his responsibility.

Again: His responsibility.

Having said that, I do not believe he has a temper problem. It took a perfect storm of factors (in the words of one Hotline confidant) to get Johnson ejected.

And some of those factors were not Johnson’s fault. The fair thing to do is point those out and take a detailed look at what happened:

* The timeout situation.

Seconds before Johnson got tossed (for unsportsmanlike behavior, with 3:36 remaining), the officials were discussing the first technical (called by David Hall) and preparing to report it to the official scorer.

Technically, they had not given the signal for the under-four-minute media timeout.

But it was a timeout situation: Stanford’s players were taking their seats on the bench and the coaches were huddling on the court to discuss strategy.

For the officials to justify the ejection by saying Johnson “was out on the playing floor, and out of the coach’s box, disputing calls” is, frankly, a bogus technicality.

He’s allowed on the “playing floor” when there’s a timeout, and whether the refs had officially called it or not, there was a timeout.

***Note: CBS studio analyst Seth Davis contributed to (mis)perception issues by erroneously stating that there was no timeout and that Johnson had come onto the floor as Marquette was about to shoot free throws. He could not have been more wrong.

* Johnson’s position on the floor.

Because of the official explanation for Johnson’s ejection — that he was “out on the playing floor” — this is the critical issue. And it’s directly connected to the timeout.

Watch any Stanford game, and Johnson follows the same routine during timeouts:

He walks onto the court, often very close to the free throw circle, turns and huddles with his coaches. They talk strategy, then he heads to the bench and addresses the team.

The spot on the floor where Johnson was at the time of the ejection — that’s where he walks for every timeout.

My guess is that in his mind, he wasn’t doing anything unusual. He didn’t make a separate trip to the free throw circle to show up Hall or get in his face. That’s about where he always goes, where he would have been anyhow.

* The quick-trigger official.

So Johnson thinks it’s a timeout and walks where he usually walks, and standing there, looking straight at him, is Curtis Shaw, who has the quickest trigger in the business.

According to StatSheet.com, Shaw has called 10 more technical fouls than any other official in the country and ejected more coaches than any official in the country.

Yes, he has worked more games than just about anybody, but his technicals-per-game rate (1 in every 2) is among the highest and his ejections-per-game rate (1 in 20) is the highest.

Shaw famously tossed Iowa State Coach Larry Eustachy from an Elite Eight game against Michigan State in 2000. I was there, in the Palace at Auburn Hills, covering UCLA (which had lost to ISU two days earlier). And it was surreal.

I remember thinking at the time that Eustachy hadn’t done anything out of the ordinary, and then all of a sudden, he was tossed. (At that point, he went crazy.)

* The image issue.

Like I said, Johnson doesn’t have a temper problem. When he talks to or stares down officials, he’s always calm (or as calm as coaches get).

But I believe Johnson might have an image problem: He’s about 6-foot-6, and when he stands there in his suit, his arms on hips, scowling and staring at officials … he looks intimidating — much more intimidating than most coaches. And perhaps it puts officials on the defensive.

In that situation, Johnson reminds me of Lute Olson or Bob Knight, who are also in the 6-5 or 6-6 range and even bigger/wider than Johnson. Each has has a huge presence on the sideline and can be intimidating to officials even when not screaming or cursing.

I can’t help but wonder if Johnson’s presence makes him more prone to technicals than other coaches.

Counting the two from Saturday, he has received five this season. My guess is that no other coach in the Pac-10 has five, except perhaps for USC’s Tim Floyd, who rages in a manner Johnson does not.

Whether he’s more prone to technicals or not, Johnson should be ultra careful — he should act on the assumption, even if it’s unfair, that he is.

So continuing the “perfect storm of factors” premise: A timing technicality combined with Johnson’s timeout routine, a quick-trigger official and possibly an image issue … all of it conspired to create the circumstances for an ejection.

And those circumstances, some of them not Johnson’s fault, count for 49 percent of the responsibility for what happened Saturday. Johnson gets the other 51.

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To provide as much context as possible, here’s a Q&A that Darren Sabedra, the Merc’s Stanford beat writer, had with Bill McCabe, the Pac-10’s coordinator of officials, on Monday:

McCabe was one of three administrators at the Honda Center (ie: the Pond) who determined whether the officials deserved to work more games in the tournament.

He declined to say whether any of them received passing grades, but he did say, “I’ll just tell you this: I thought they did a good job.”

That includes Shaw.

McCabe on the first technical: “When Dave Hall was going to the bench to report the foul, Trent got out of the box about four feet and had been warned — that’s my understanding. So David assessed a technical foul. That’s something you have to do.”

McCabe on the second technical: “What the officials are told to do is come to the center of the court because you have a technical foul and another foul. You have to be sure you get the right (free-throw) shooters.

“When Trent came onto the court, he had one foot in the free-throw circle, and he was still barking at them. I don’t care what he says. He’s barking at them. I think they have no choice but to assess the second technical foul.”

McCabe on how officials might interpret Johnson’s scowl: “We try to ignore it. I’ve always said when the coaches continually complain as you come by (on the court), it detracts from your concentration and you do a poorer job. It’s very hard to officiate the coaches and officiate the court.”

McCabe on whether officials need to hear the “magic words” to assess a technical: “No. The rulebook is very clear. If you’re out of the coaching box and if your conduct is unsporting toward the officials – whether it’s magic words or whatever – it’s a technical foul.”

McCabe on Shaw leading the country in technical foul calls and ejections: “He’s not one of our officials. But our people (Pac-10 officials), we haven’t ejected a coach since I’ve been in this job. We call very few technical fouls.”

McCabe on Saturday’s officials: “Hall’s as good as there is around. Shaw is very well thought of.”

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11 Responses to “Did Trent Johnson deserve the ejection? A quasi-contrarian perspective”

  1. I think that Johnson gets more than 51 percent of the blame. He had already received one technical, and if he had come out on the court to his usual position and *not* continued barking at the officials, he would not have received the second.

  2. I don’t understand why everybody keeps harping on this. (I’m not referring to Wilner’s piece, which is well-reasoned and quite interesting.) Whatever Trent Johnson did, he paid the price for it — an ejection plus four points for the other team. He has accepted responsibility, promised not to do it again, and never once said a single implying that the officials were to blame. What else is he supposed to do? He’s accused of being out of the coaching box, not of offering bribes or threatening to kill somebody.

  3. It stinks to me that Hall works many Pac-10 games and then worked Stanford in an early round NCAA Tournament game. Of course McCabe is going to defend a guy that works regularly in the Pac-10.

    Many of the Pac-10 officials go out to eastern sites in the tournament and work games involving teams they don’t regularly see.

    Mr. McCabe is mistaken when he says that they haven’t ejected anyone since he’s been on the job. Perhaps he’s forgotten that Mike Reed ejected Herb Sendek in the Washington-ASU game at Tempe last year.

    The other flaw in the way the Tournament works is that one of the officials who worked your first round game works your second round game. So Shaw worked Stanford on Thursday against Cornell and Hall worked the Marquette-Kentucky game. Was there something that Johnson said in Thursday that stuck in Curtis Shaw’s craw and carried over? With a guy who calls as many technical fouls as him, you never know.

    During the regular season, you very seldom see an official in back-to-back games (outside the November tournaments). I think it is a big flaw in how the tournament works the officials.

  4. I was at the game … it all happened in an instant, and Jon’s point about Trent being on his normal timeout routine is right on. I do not believe Trent deserved the ejection.

    I was glad Trent got the first T, the foul on Hill was a terrible call and the team needed a spark at that point. I think the first T was more of a a calculated effort to re-focus his team than it was an uncontrolled outburst.

    I don’t think Trent ever saw the second T coming. The comment from McCabe is telling, Pac-10 coaches just don’t get thrown out of games. It is one thing to know a referee likes to call T’s, but I can’t fault Trent for not knowing how close to the line he was treading. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

    I can imagine many coaches going absolutely ballistic after getting tossed like Trent did, instead he slowly walked off the court burning holes into the back of Shaw’s head. Shaw was more than willing to look at him during the timeout, it wasn’t until after he tossed Trent that he did what he should have done originally: turn his back.

  5. Bob Miller says:

    The call on Hill that precipitated all
    the hassle, at the time it happened, to
    me was reminiscent of the UCLA Collison
    foul and free throws that sealed UCLA’s
    PAC 10 championship at Pauley.
    Was that call still bugging Coach Johson
    in his subconscious?? I know it still
    bugs me.

  6. McCabe on Saturday’s officials: “Hall’s as good as there is around. Shaw is very well thought of.”

    By who? I haven’t read a single positive thing about him, in fact most of the comments I’ve read indicate that he tries to make himself the central figure in the game, has a trigger finger that’s way too quick, and shouldn’t be working any more tournament games this year.

  7. Shorter McCabe: “Heckuva job, Curtis!” This from the guy who is responsible from the debacles at Pauley last week. When will the Pac 10 have officiating commensurate with the quality of basketball played?

  8. McCabes comments are a$$coving at best. Shaw is a known crank- and a horrible offical. The game was poorly officated-for both teams- and the ref’s really interfeared with the game. Trent did not deserve either T- and there are opions from Dikie V to Mike Mont to the head of big east officals that confirm the Refs were way out of line. To make this a Trent thing is bullshit.

  9. What’s McCabe supposed to say about an official? That Shaw’s an ego-centric, whistle happy buffoon? Even if McCabe thought that, he could never say it.

    Anytime there is this much attention paid to officiating, there is an issue. Good officials should not be noticed and when they are, there’s something wrong.

  10. Again, horrible officiating from refs from the Pac-10 conference.

    I actually went up to Tom Hansen after the Marquett game and asked him point blank: “When are you actually going to do something to improve the officiating in the Pac-10?”

    Tom just waved his hand in the air and walked away.

    It’s time to retire Tom.

  11. insquisitor says:

    Ed Snate: It’s no wonder Hansen blew you off. The refs weren’t from the Pac 10!

    Curtis Shaw is an arrogant SOB who has a deservedly bad reputation in the NCAA and by other refs. He calls things for all of the wrong reasons. I believe the second T was called illegally since there was a time out called. And while it’s too late now, if I were Bowlsby, I would file a complaint with the NCAA. If there was a timeout, then Johnson could be on the court. As far as McCabe is concerned: When have you EVER hear an official admit a mistake? When it comes to offspring (officials) from self-governing bodies like the NCAA these folks have no shame or conscience.

    Go CARD. Beat those shorthorns.

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