Warriors’ shot at No. 8 seed? It’s getting S-E-R-I-O-U-S
You shouldn’t go totally playoff crazy if you’re a Warriors fan. You can go half-crazy, however. Maybe even three-quarters crazy knowing that the Warriors are closer to a playoff berth than they’ve been since the first Clinton Administration.
That’s well within your rights after last night’s 99-98 Baron Davis savior-job at Seattle. Definitely within the rights of any set of fans who haven’t tasted a playoff berth in 12+ seasons.
Last night the Warriors won a game that they never would’ve a few weeks ago (I’ll detail why later in the post), which translates to: They’re inching close-close-close to grabbing the inside track for the No. 8 playoff spot in the Western Conference with 14 games left to play.
They’re not quite there yet. But soon… if they get a few more tough victories… it’s very possible that by the end of this month, the Warriors will be the lead dog in the hunt for No. 8.
Now, of course, the mucking around for the last two West spots is well-documented. Basically, if you give Denver the nod for the seventh spot and the Lakers the sixth…
* The eighth spot’s a race to 39 victories and the Warriors are tracking right towards 37, 38 or 39, along with the Clippers, Kings and New Orleans.
* It’ll take one or two more surprise Warrior victories, but they got one last night, and any team that gets one has a shot at two or three more in the final 14.
Here’s the deal: Davis’ jumper in Seattle means that the GSWs only need to go 7-7 (instead of 8-6) to finish 39-43, and that’s an immense difference, given the Warriors’ very difficult remaining schedule.
That’s a full game gained on the Clippers, NOK, Sacramento and (dying) Minnesota and that, again, is immense.
Now who am I to talk, anyway, after I wrote the Warriors off weeks ago? Wrote ‘em off on Feb. 2 in the good ol’ Mercury News sports page, and kept writing ‘em off on this blog, again and again and again.
Back on Feb. 2, the Warriors were 21-25. I wrote then that the winner of the West’s eighth spot usually rings up 43 or 44 victories, which meant that the Warriors would’ve needed a 22-14 finish to earn the berth.
I said that the mega-deal with Indy made them much better, but it was likely that they’d go 16-20 down the stretch and finish 37-45.
Guess what: The Warriors are 11-11 since I wrote that. With their remaining schedule, 37-45 is very possible. They’d have to finish 11-3 to get to 43 victories. That’s not happening.
The Warriors’ likely-record part of the guess was semi-correct. The rest… the talk about the eighth spot requiring 43 or 44 victories? TOTALLY WRONG.
Well, oops. The West No. 8 seed is going to win 37 games at minimum and 40 or 41 max. That was my error. This is the worst race for the bottom of the West playoffs since 1997, when the Clippers made it at 36-46. My bad.
I never guessed the Clippers, Hornets and Kings (and even Nuggets and Lakers) would be so awful, all at the same time, but here we are.
I also wrote a sharp blog item at the All-Star Break saying that the Warriors weren’t going to make the playoffs. At that point, they were 25-29.
Since then, they’re 7-7.
Now they need to go 7-7 to finish 39-43 and put a victory total on the board that I am not sure the Clippers, NOK or Sacramento can match. (I know Minnesota’s theoretically still in it, but I can’t bring myself to seriously consider the T-Wolves, who could flatten out this week.)
It’s out there. It’s real. It’ll be difficult. But I’m serious. It’s there.
* Here’s why the Warriors could be considered the favorites for the eighth spot.
– They’ve grabbed the momentum, and the playoff race always favors mo’. Another surprise victory (say, at Utah Tuesday or at the Lakers next Sunday) would demoralize the other chasers and further adrenalize the Nellies.
– They’ve got Don Nelson, who is probably the best game-coach of the remaining No. 8-seed contenders (Mike Dunleavy Sr., Eric Musselman, Byron Scott, Randy Wittman.)
This isn’t a spot to get into Warrior team stats, but last year’s FG%: 43.3. This year’s FG%: 45.9.
Last year’s points-per-game: 98.5. This year’s PPG: 104.9.
Last years blocked-shots-per-game: 4.3. This year’s BSPG: 6.0 (tops in the NBA).
Those are huge, huge improvements by NBA standards or anybody’s standards, though a lot of it are byproducts of some easy stuff, such as: Playing Andris Biedrins! And Monta Ellis! Oh sorry.
– The Indiana mega-trade made the GSWs a lot better. A LOT BETTER.
Took some time, and it all gets wacky if Davis is out, but the Warriors are a decent team when you plug in Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington, and subtract Dunleavy and Murphy. (And erasing Dunleavy and Murphy’s salaries? That’s a super-bonus. But you knew that.)
In fact, the Warriors are probably the eighth-best team in the West right now, because of that trade.
Big point: That doesn’t mean they’ll get the eighth spot in the playoffs, due to the difficult remaning schedule (their own fault for not eating up the early easy part of the sked).
But Warrior fans should be pleased thinking that this is probably a developing playoff-quality team, locked up for a few years, even if it finishes out of the playoffs and a many games under .500 this April.
– They’ve finally started to win road games. Losing almost all of them is why I said they were done last month. Playoff races are usually determined by teams pulling out wins on the road–while their opponents drop the road games.
The win last night gave the Warriors consecutive road victories for only the second time this year–the first time came at Boston/at Orlando in late-December.
The win also lifted the Warriors’ road record to 8-26, which is still lousy but creeping closer to the Clippers, T-Wolves and Hornets’ slightly-less-awful road records.
– They’ve finally started winning on the end of back-to-backs. They started the season 1-15 (if my math is correct) on the back-end of BTBs.
But with victories at Detroit (after Washington), at home against Dallas (after Portland) and last night (after Minnesota), the Warriors are now 3-0 in on the tired side. Amazing.
(The Warriors have two more road games as the final part of BTBs this season, including the final game in Portland April 18. The Warriors need to go into that game thinking it’s a win.)
– They’ve finally won both sides of a back-to-back. The Warriors had back-to-back games 16 previous times this season, and didn’t win both sides in any.
Friday night at home against Minnesota and last night in Seattle was the Warriors’ 17th set of BTB games.
(They have three more BTB sets coming.)
I credit Jackson and Harrington for a lot of this BTB improvement–they compete in a way that the ex-Warriors didn’t and couldn’t.
– The Warriors are 6-0 with their preferred starting lineup of Davis, Jason Richardson, Jackson, Harrington and Andris Biedrins all healthy.
That’s a good stat. That’s an important stat. But it’s also predicated on things the Warriors can’t control–such as Davis’ creaky knee and Jackson’s sore toe–so I won’t be citing it much.
– The Warriors have been able to win the last few games playing Davis much more lightly than in the early part of the season.
Last two games: Davis 23 minutes vs. Minnesota; 25 minutes vs. Seattle.
It’s an automatic with him these days–if he gets a series of 38-minute games, he’s bound to be headed to some injury trouble. He’s a 26-to-35-minute a game now, and 35 is pushing it.
But Nelson has Monta Ellis to give him longer minutes at the point now and it’s a triple-plus: Ellis is playing better, Davis is fresher in the minutes he does play and you can put them both on the floor at the end of games and it’s tough on the opponent.
– The Warriors have the tie-breaker advantage against the Hornets, which could be GIGANTIC, as is detailed later in the post.
– Biedrins has bothered two past Warrior-killers recently: First Elton Brand was a shadow of himself, then Kevin Garnett looked like he just didn’t want to shoot against Biedrins.
With two games coming against Tim Duncan, one against Amare Stoudemire, two against Pau Gasol and two against Carlos Boozer (including Tuesday in Utah)–cumulatively half of the Warriors’ remaining games–that’s a key point for the Warriors.
So the Warriors can steal one or two against the Suns, Spurs and Jazz. They are probably going to need to… Because…
* Here’s why the Warriors might not be the favorites for the eighth spot:
– Their remaining schedule is notable for its sparsity of easy games. I figure there are only four: Host Wash March 23, host Memphis April 1, at Memphis April 6, host Minnesota April 15.
There are five toss-up games: Host San Antonio March 26, host Phoenix March 29, host Utah April 9, host Dallas April 17 and at Portland April 18.
There are five brutal games: At Utah on Tuesday, at the Lakers March 25, at Houston April 4, at San Antonio April 7, at Sacramento April 13.
If they go 4-0 in the easy ones (never can assume that), go 3-2 in the toss-ups (tough to do) and maybe pick off one of the brutal ones, then they’re 40-42.
Much more likely that they’ll go 3-1 in the easy, 2-3 in the toss-ups (unless they just go nuclear at home vs. the Big Guys) and 1-4 in the toughies, which brings them to 38-44.
* The Lakers already have 34 victories, Denver has 33, and they both have many more games left to play than the Warriors. Unless there’s more collapsing, the 6 and 7 spots are far reaches for the Warriors.
* In comparison, New Orleans has more easy games and fewer brutal games left than the Warriors.
I count five or six (or maybe even seven, if you’re stretching it) easy ones for NOK, which is at 29 victories now and has played two fewer games than the GSWs.
So if the Hornets, who have 16 remaining, go 5-1 in their easy ones, and 5-5 in the others, they get to 39-43.
They just split a road back-to-back with New York (win) and Washington (loss), so they can win on the road if the situation is right.
(**OF COURSE, as typed above, the Warriors have the tie-breaker and would get the eighth spot if it’s a head-to-head tie with NOK. This looks like it has a great shot of coming into play.**)
* The Clippers, who have 30 wins, have four or five easy ones among their remaining 17 games. They also have eight brutal ones.
I’ve counted the Clips out for a while, and I’m still counting them out, though they could change that this week if they scramble out a couple road victories in New Jersey, Chicago and Milwaukee.
The Clips project to a 38-44 finish.
* Sacramento is at 29 wins with 16 left to play, and must win at Atlanta today Monday for me to put the Kings back into the picture.
That’d get them to 30 victories with 15 games left and would put them on a road winning streak, which really means something in this race.
After Monday in Atlanta today (which, again, they’d better win), Sacramento has five easy games left.
By the way, I’m counting the Warriors trip to Arco on April 13 as a easy one for the Kings and a brutal one for the Warriors. If the Warriors find a way to win this one, that could seal their playoff spot. That could be the game, folks, if the Warriors want in.
The Kings have four brutals and seven toss-ups left. If they go 4-1 in the easies, 1-3 in the brutals and 4-3 in the toss-ups, that’s a 39-43 finish.
Currently, the Warriors are 2-1 in the season series vs. the Kings, with that huge game coming up at Arco on April 13.
OK, there it is, as broken down as Kevin Garnett’s spirit and as prolonged as CBS’ NCAA pre-game shows. But I put in the effort. I admitted my wrongs. I’ve dug up what I can.
Have I proven how serious we should be getting about this?


winning formula: sweep home games and steal 2 more road games probably in Portland and Memphis. I can’t see the Ws in SA, LAL, or other places.
Kawakami I usually hate you and your articles, but this reminded me of your younger years. Excellent article, awesome information, great stats. Your writing is so much better when you arent so negative, and looking for a controversy. Please keep putting out more work like this, it was really a joy to read.
Yet don’t get too positive, because we wouldn’t recognize you.
Very nice to see the dubs distribute shots so well; their depth should be there big advantage in the BTB and road games. Part of BD showing up in Seattle was because of small minutes the night before.
I really enjoy how they’ve stuck with it too - they’re currently playing the best of all the teams vying for that 8th spot.
And you never know about those crazy games against the tough teams. If they’re really going to be a playoff contender they’ve got to find a way to make some upsets. When they’re playing well it’s a tough matchup for anybody right now; they should definitely approach the games like they’re winnable (because they are, surprsingly enough).
Cheers!
I don’t see how you could call a game at Sacto “brutal,” nor the games at Lakers and Utah, since both those teams aren’t exactly hot.
Wow..is Tim K jumping on the band wagon? Not surprising…
Yes Tim.
Please continue to be positive because we don’t like to hear negative nellies. But don’t be too positive, because then you’d be nothing but a glorified cheerleader, and like, the world totally doesn’t need another cheerleader. Duh. And try to mix in a little reference to pop culture so we know you’re “hip to the scene,” but don’t try too hard, because you know, it’ll look like you’re trying. Too hard. Or something.
Hey Sarchasmic, that was the most retarded post i have read. Your a jackass.
Tim,
You’ve been a great read all season. You’re counting them out while insisting on the upgrade of the Indy trade was right on. I think the key is if the Warriors can stay on the wave of energy and focus they are currently on they are bound to hit some grade A teams on off nights. I think they have the talent. And I think Baron sees Redemption/Recognition and trusts Nellie. A very good crest at this point. Warrior fans are really great fans to have lasted through this bipolar season and deserve the playoffs.
How’s it hangin’ Tim? First of all, great breakdown of the differing scenarios pertaining to the race for the eigth spot in the West. You really opened up my eyes to what else is going on. As a Warriors fan, nothing would please me more than to see them in the playoffs; however, you and I both know that making it to this year’s dance in the NBA is only cosmetic because even if the Warriors make it there, that’s as far as they’re going (although watching the Warriors give the Dallas Mavericks hell in the first round would be fun). Consequently, I don’t expect much from this team.
The only thing that I really want for this team at this point in time is for them to play their absolute best with everyone healthy NOT to make the playoffs, but to see what this team is truly capable of. As a result, Chris Mullin, Rod Higgins, and Don Nelson will know exactly what they have and can make moves in the offseason through the draft, free agency, or trade to bring in a player or players to make this team better. I’m sure they already know that the Warriors need a power forward who can play interior defense and can rebound the ball, but having everybody healthy and seeing how the team plays together for the remaining games of the season will validate any thoughts or ideas of improving this team for the future. Having that said, the hopes of the team, the franchise, the organization, and the fanbase are on the Warriors making the playoffs this year; but it’s actually going to be NEXT year that will be more interesting for a number of reasons.
One of those reasons being that we have a full Warriors squad for an entire season. Another reason is the growth of our two young studs in Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins. And I am holding out hope that a significant move via the draft, free agency, or trade will make this team better than it is now.
Now, as it pertains to the Warriors playoff hopes of the 2006/2007 NBA season, a lot is going to depend on them making it there as you so eloquently wrote Tim. The Warriors have a schedule filled with tough opponents, some of which have to be dealt with on the road; therefore, the Warriors have to play at a very high level to beat them.
The Warriors have been able to beat teams by doing two things this season. The first thing is obviously their running game. When the Warriors get out into the open court, they are deadly. Very few teams can hang with them when they run, and they lead the league in fastbreak points. So one of the things the Warriors need to do in order to win is to force tempo. The Warriors need to have a Phoenix Suns mentality of pushing the ball as much as possible, and it’s not a physical challenge as much as it is a mental challenge. The Warriors need to have the mindset to run. If they get into a halfcourt game, the offense stalls and they go through scoring droughts. The Seattle game was a tale of two halves. In the first half the Warriors were able to force tempo while in the second half, they were slowed down in the half court game.
Another thing the Warriors need to do is to turn it up on the defensive end. During this 5-0 stretch with the full squad, the Warriors have been able to beat teams by playing better defense. For the Warriors, a running team, playing good defense is twice as important because they stop teams from scoring, and they create scoring opportunities for themselves on the break. The Warriors lead the NBA in steals and blocked shots. If they can continue this trend while pounding the glass, they will ignite their fastbreak attack and put points on the board as well. So their defensive intensity is going to be key for them.
If they can do these things, it won’t really matter who they’re playing. One can only hope. Keep up the good work Tim!
How are they going to “play their absolute best with everyone healthy NOT to make the playoffs?” If they play the way they are now, they are in. They own the tiebreakers against most of the teams behind them in case of ties. You said it yourself that they need a capable 4, so why not make the playoffs? We already know their weaknesses. Draft position? Do you really want us fans to suffer another year without the playoffs? Seriouly, how long have you been a GSW fan?
Yo, TheHustle. Learn the diff between “you’re” and “your” before you start throwing around the term “retarded,” son.
The Warriors MAY make the playoffs but their record will be under 500 and very similar to the number of wins they had under Montgomery and Musselman. What has happened is that the competition in the Western conference has slipped. In past years you needed 44 wins or beter to make the playoffs. this year a few sub 500 teams will make it. This is nothing to get excited about.
It’s a playoff spot, it’s something to get excited about. Plus this team plays much better than either the Montgomery or Musselman teams, no doubt. I think we’re just scratching the surface in regards to what this personnel can do; a lot of potential, and it’s still possible that those boards and D could come “in house” even (Powell’s been more than just a thrown in, POB maybe someday but probably better on a slower team). A deep draft, interesting free agents (Sideshow Varejao IS Joakim Noah ‘cept with actual NBA experience and you don’t need a high draft pick so much as a solid sales pitch and a decent clip of $$$).
Much better thought out than previous rosters hands down. Much more excited about the dubs than I’ve been in a long time.
Cheers!
Wander7 I never said that I did not want the Warriors to make the playoffs. As a long suffering fan, I would love to see them play past April. What I meant to say was that at this juncture of the season, we finally have a full squad for the first time this year, and that I am content with seeing this team play together for the remaining games of the season. Of course we have a good idea of what the Warriors need from a personnel standpoint. Their problems are well documented. But at the same time, this is the first time we have seen this team in its entirety play together. We don’t truly know what this team is capable of. Not yet anyway. As a result, the remaining games of the season will give us a better barometer of what this team exactly needs to do well next season. It’s going to be next season that all Warrior fans should expect bigger and better things from this team aside from locking up the eigth seed for the 2006/2007 NBA season. Asking the braintrust of the Warriors front office to make personnel decisions without first SEEING this team play would be foolish. If you’re going to possibly make a multi-million dollar investment to bring a player or players to add to this squad, you must first do your due dilligence and know exactly what you have. Mullin, Higgins, and Nelson need to see this team play first in order to do that. That’s all I was trying to say. If they make the playoffs this year, then great. However, my hopes are not only for the Warriors to make the playoffs this year, but to be contenders in the years to come.